Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/Today
See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion policies for the official rules of this page, and how to do cleanup.
Deletion of a category may mean that the articles and images in it are directly put in its parent category, or that another subdivision of the parent category is made. If they are already members of more suitable categories, it may also mean that they become a member of one category less.
How to use this page
[edit]- Know if the category you are looking at needs deleting (or to be created). If it is a "red link" and has no articles or subcategories, then it is already deleted (more likely, it was never really created in the first place), and does not need to be listed here.
- Read and understand Wikipedia:Categorization before using this page. Nominate categories that violate policies here, or are misspelled, mis-capitalized, redundant/need to be merged, not NPOV, small without potential for growth, or are generally bad ideas. (See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.)
- Please read the Wikipedia:Categorization of people policy if nominating or voting on a people-related category.
- Unless the category to be deleted is non-controversial – vandalism or a duplicate, for example – please do not depopulate the category (remove the tags from articles) before the community has made a decision.
- Add {{cfd}} to the category page for deletion. (If you are recommending that the category be renamed, you may also add a note giving the suggested new name.) This will add a message to it, and also put the page you are nominating into Category:Categories for deletion. It's important to do this to help alert people who are watching or browsing the category.
- Alternately, use the rename template like this: {{cfr|newname}}
- If you are concerned with a stub category, make sure to inform the WikiProject Stub sorting
- Add new deletion candidates under the appropriate day near the top of this page.
- Alternatively, if the category is a candidate for speedy renaming (see Wikipedia:Category renaming), add it to the speedy category at the bottom.
- Make sure you add a colon (:) in the link to the category being listed, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes the category link a hard link which can be seen on the page (and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating).
- Sign any listing or vote you make by typing ~~~~ after your text.
- Link both categories to delete and categories to merge into. Failure to do this will delay consideration of your suggestion.
Special notes
[edit]Some categories may be listed in Category:Categories for deletion but accidently not listed here.
Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_April_21
April 21
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Anthropomorphic horses
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I looked through random 30% of the pages in category. None of them says that the ghorse there is anthrophomorphis, and what is more none of them look like anthropomorphic. Here there are anthropomorphic horses. On the other hand all of them see to be Category:Talking animals. Meaning that this categorization is pure speculation of a wikipedian and it must be dismantled into category:Fiction about talking animals. p.s. there even no horse-headed egyptian god to justify the category. --Altenmann >talk 22:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I agree that there is a difference between being a "talking beast" and being an anthropomorphic one. (Horace Horsecollar would be an example in this case.) A key disinction is that the latter requires representation in visual media (or some very clear description in the text). So I would support first pruning the whole tree of Category:Anthropomorphic animals, and see what is left. I also would suggest pruning articles that are about stories, rather than about the animals themselves. - jc37 22:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Spillover of the Sudanese civil war
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: the cat to claim to be about Spillover of the Sudanese civil war, but the clashes there are about South Sudan (a different country from Sudan), which has its own political turmoil that has been exacerbated with the arrest of the vice president. Also nothing in the articles added to this cats talk about how this is linked to the Sudanese civil war FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I thought spillover does mean another country? Are there any articles related to the Sudanese civil war that count as "spillover"? Moondragon21 (talk) 21:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it is about other countires but need to be linked to the event that it is spilling over from. The articles you have added are either about the war itself (e.g., Darfur campaign (2023–present) , a different civil war in Sudan that ended before the current war (e.g., Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile ), or a civil war in South Sudan (e.g., 2025 Nasir clashes) that has nothing to do with the civil war in Sudan, and started due ti the arrest First Vice President Riek Machar in late March 2025. FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy seasons
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 19:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Kuna people
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Kuna people to Category:Guna people
- Propose renaming Category:Colombian people of Kuna descent to Category:Colombian people of Guna descent
- Propose renaming Category:Panamanian people of Kuna descent to Category:Panamanian people of Guna descent
- Nominator's rationale: Articles for Guna people and Guna language now both have the updated spelling, so for consistency the categories should be updated as well. Pineapple Storage (talk) 18:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Members of KAJ
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: All redirects to the group's page. Consensus is to not have "musicians by band" categories unless at least two members have their own articles. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Got it! I suppose all three members will soon have their own articles (as they do in sv fi he). So it should be deleted until they actually do become their own articles? Cogitato (talk) 16:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the articles for the individual members should exist before the category. If you're permitting, this can be speedy deleted per {{db-g7}}. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:24, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Got it! I suppose all three members will soon have their own articles (as they do in sv fi he). So it should be deleted until they actually do become their own articles? Cogitato (talk) 16:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Superisliga players
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Metal Ligaen players which is the article name of the league and older category. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 14:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Collection of the Nationalmuseum Stockholm
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Collection of the Nationalmuseum Stockholm to Category:Collection of Nationalmuseum
- Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Nationalmuseum Stockholm to Category:Paintings in Nationalmuseum
- Propose renaming Category:Collection of the Moderna Museet to Category:Collection of Moderna Museet
- Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Moderna Museet to Category:Paintings in Moderna Museet
- Nominator's rationale: Previously a speedy discussion, see Category talk:Paintings in the Nationalmuseum Stockholm. For the first case, NM, the article is at Nationalmuseum, the lead does not use "the Nationalmuseum", and the article sometimes use it. It may need a disambiguator, as Nationalmuseum may be created in other Germanic languages (and Swedish-speaking countries), but I'm starting here. For the second case, MM, "the" is not used within the article. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't speak any Scandinavian languages, but the question of whether or not to use the definite article in category names for museums with Danish (rather than Swedish) names came up on my talk page on Commons last year: :c:User talk:Ham II/Archive 4 § "in the Statens Museum for Kunst". The outcome of that discussion was that "the" was removed from all Commons categories relating to Statens Museum for Kunst (which we've elected to call the National Gallery of Denmark on the English Wikipedia). The absence of a definite article in the article title Nationalmuseum is irrelevant to whether one should be used in running text in a category name. Ham II (talk) 13:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Nature reserves in Håbo Municipality
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Håbo Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Uppsala County and Category:Håbo Municipality
- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Höganäs Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Skåne County and Category:Höganäs Municipality
- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Kristianstad Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Skåne County and Category:Kristianstad Municipality
- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Lund Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Skåne County and Category:Lund Municipality
- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Lysekil Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Västra Götaland County and Category:Lysekil Municipality
- Propose merging Category:Nature reserves in Vellinge Municipality to Category:Nature reserves in Skåne County and Category:Vellinge Municipality
- Nominator's rationale: One article in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Cities in Sweden by county
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Cities in Sweden by county (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Blekinge County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Dalarna County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Gävleborg County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Gotland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Halland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Jämtland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Jönköping County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Kalmar County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Kronoberg County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Norrbotten County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Örebro County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Östergötland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Skåne County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Södermanland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Stockholm County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Uppsala County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Värmland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Västerbotten County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Västernorrland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Västmanland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Propose merging Category:Cities in Västra Götaland County to Category:Cities in Sweden
- Nominator's rationale: City was an administrative status Sweden that existed until 1971; there were around 130 cities in total at the end. It has occurred merges and name changes of the counties since the status was removed. The proposal is a reverse of creation of these categories in 2022 because it is not useful to categorise these "former" cities by current counties and the categories are small. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Belgium
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Belgium to Category:Professional sports leagues in Belgium, Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Europe and Category:Ice hockey leagues in Belgium
- Propose merging Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Estonia to Category:Professional sports leagues in Estonia, Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Europe and Category:Ice hockey leagues in Estonia
- Propose merging Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Israel to Category:Professional sports leagues in Israel, Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Europe and Category:Ice hockey in Israel
- Propose merging Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Latvia to Category:Professional sports leagues in Latvia, Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Europe and Category:Ice hockey leagues in Latvia
- Propose merging Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Poland to Category:Professional sports leagues in Poland, Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Europe and Category:Ice hockey leagues in Poland
- Nominator's rationale: One article or article and eponymous category in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1856
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1856 to Category:1856 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1856, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1850s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1859 to Category:1859 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1859, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1850s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1864 to Category:1864 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1864, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1860s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1869 to Category:1869 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1869, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1860s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1871 to Category:1871 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1871, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1870s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1872 to Category:1872 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1872, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1870s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1880 to Category:1880 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1880, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1880s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1882 to Category:1882 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1882, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1880s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1885 to Category:1885 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1885, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1880s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1888 to Category:1888 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1888, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1880s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1903 to Category:1903 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1903, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1906 to Category:1906 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1906, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1907 to Category:1907 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1907, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1909 to Category:1909 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1909, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1900s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1913 to Category:1913 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1913, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1918 to Category:1918 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1918, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1910s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1925 to Category:1925 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1925, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1920s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1932 to Category:1932 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1932, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1930s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1946 to Category:1946 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1946, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1940s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1959 to Category:1959 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1959, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1950s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1960 to Category:1960 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1960, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1960s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1969 to Category:1969 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1969, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1960s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1970 to Category:1970 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1970, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1970s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1971 to Category:1971 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1971, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1970s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1980 to Category:1980 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1980, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1980s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1987 to Category:1987 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1987, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1980s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1991 to Category:1991 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1991, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1990s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1993 to Category:1993 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1993, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1990s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1998 to Category:1998 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 1998, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 1990s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2001 to Category:2001 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2001, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2000s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2006 to Category:2006 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2006, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2000s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2008 to Category:2008 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2008, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2000s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2012 to Category:2012 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2012, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2010s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2013 to Category:2013 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2013, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2010s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2019 to Category:2019 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2019, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2010s
- Propose merging Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 2023 to Category:2023 establishments in Sweden, Category:Railway stations opened in 2023, and Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in the 2020s
- Nominator's rationale: One article in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:People from Alby, Botkyrka
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Alby, Botkyrka to Category:People from Botkyrka Municipality
- Propose merging Category:People from Fittja to Category:People from Botkyrka Municipality
- Propose merging Category:People from Grödinge to Category:People from Botkyrka Municipality
- Propose merging Category:People from Norsborg to Category:People from Botkyrka Municipality
- Propose merging Category:People from Mörkö to Category:People from Södertälje Municipality
- Nominator's rationale: 1–2 articles in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Works set in Illinois by city
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Priors of Great Malvern
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Priors of Great Malvern to Category:English priors and Category:People from Malvern, Worcestershire
- Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Scottish expatriates in the Republic of Venice
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Events by country
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Events by country to Category:Organized events by country
- Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, with very few exceptions this is all about organized events. After renaming the category can be moved under Category:Organized events by location. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:People from Västanfors
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:People from Västanfors to Category:People from Fagersta
- Nominator's rationale: A neighbourhood in Fagersta. Only three out of five articles mention Västanfors. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Works set in Lublin
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Works set in Lublin to Category:Culture in Lublin
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction to Category:Holy Roman Empire
- Propose merging Category:Mughal Empire in fiction to Category:Works about Mughal Empire
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge both per nom. The subcats are clear in the title that they are "works" cats, so they can be in the main cat, not needing this intermediary. - jc37 08:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days
[edit]- Upmerge to category:Jewish holy days Pointless category. The articles are not about names, but about holidays. --Altenmann >talk 04:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Cemeteries in Katsina State
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Cemeteries in Katsina State to Category:Katsina State
- Nominator's rationale: redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 03:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. By the way the subcategory is meant to contain subcategories with cemetaries, but there are only biographies directly in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hausa-language literature awards
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Hausa-language literature awards to Category:Hausa literature and Category:Literary awards
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 02:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Single merge, because the article is already in Category:Nigerian literary awards. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Violence against women in the Pitcairn Islands
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Underpopulated category. SMasonGarrison 02:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. (The article is already in Category:Violence against women in Oceania so a dual merge is not needed.) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Active churches in Turkey
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Active churches in Turkey to Category:Churches in Turkey
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. There isn't an Category:Active churches SMasonGarrison 02:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete, all content is already in a subcategory by denomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Ethiopian Civil War nurses
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Ethiopian Civil War nurses to Category:People of the Ethiopian Civil War and Category:Wartime nurses
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is underpopulated SMasonGarrison 02:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:American radicals
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The term "radical" has a specific relation to classical radicalism. In the United States, that ideology was represented by the Radical Republicans, which already has Category:Radical Republicans contained within this one. Instead, the three political figures whose articles are tagged with this category are only united as Progressive Era reformers despite huge differences in their views. For example, Eugene V. Debs is tagged with Category:American anti-capitalists, while Henry George has Category:American anti-communists. With poor defining characteristics, this category can be vaguely labeled onto anyone involved in far-left or far-right politics and should be deleted accordingly for using "radical" as a subjective descriptor. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 01:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Lean oppose. Deleting the category would isolate the child category Category:Radical Republicans. Your concern seems to be equally applicable to the parent category Category:Radicals and sibling categories, like British radicals, German radicals etc. SMasonGarrison 02:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input as the category creator! To clarify, if deleted, I would want Category:Radical Republicans to be a direct child of Category:Radicals rather than orphaned. The header text of Category:Radicals clarifying that "radicalism does not refer here to the American English sense of the term as a left or right-wing 'radical', but to the contrary to the political tradition of Radicalism" highlights why a category for American radicals is uniquely confusing, especially when the country's distinctly radical politicians already have their own category. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 02:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Lean oppose. Deleting the category would isolate the child category Category:Radical Republicans. Your concern seems to be equally applicable to the parent category Category:Radicals and sibling categories, like British radicals, German radicals etc. SMasonGarrison 02:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - Looking at several threads on Talk:Classical radicalism, it seems there is currently no consensus as to what the name of the page should be. So until that is squared away, it's difficult to decide what the name of the related categories should be. It would appear that Category:Radicals is an ambiguous name as-is, and probably needs some sort of modifying word or parenthetical. And until that is resolved, I'm not sure we can address this subcat as to whether it is appropriate categorisation or not. - jc37 06:51, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Lean support (with re-parenting of the subcategory), it looks as if it is not a defining characteristic of the three articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Fictional characters by work
[edit]- Merge Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium to Fictional characters by work
- Merge Category:Fictional characters by medium to Fictional characters by work
- Merge Category:Fictional characters by franchise to Fictional characters by work
Ok, so we have three trees all doing effectively the same thing:
- Category:Fictional elements by work
- Category:Fictional elements by medium
- And there is no Category:Fictional elements by franchise, they are just directly under Category:Mass media franchises.
And in looking at these: "by medium", is really "by medium of work", which we tend to categorise as "by work". And "by franchise", is really just "by related works".
These just create unnecessary intermediary layers between parent and child cats; and also broad segmentation of topics, which is a bane to navigation for our readers.
This is severe WP:OVERLAPCAT.
These trees all need cleanup. Elements of fiction (and related cats) are scattered everywhere. And the first step, I think, is that we need to unify under a single naming standard. Once we do that, we should be able to more easily clean up a lot of the mess.
So this is a test nom to see what we can decide about the "by work", "by medium", "by franchise", and "by franchise and medium", trees. I think they all need to be merged to a single tree of a unified name. What do you all think? - jc37 18:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Merge all as nom. - jc37 18:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're not supposed to "vote" on something where you're the nominator.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Consensus is not a vote. And I've been nominating things this way for decades. I have faith that the closer understands how to weigh consensus amongst commenters. - jc37 21:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're not supposed to "vote" on something where you're the nominator.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Franchise and work are not identical concepts, nor is medium to either of them.★Trekker (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- How would you define the difference between a work and a franchise? - jc37 21:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- A franchise is a collection of works in a multitude of mediums. They can be distinguished the same way Wikipedia editors distinguish/decide when to use (franchise) or (film series) as disambiguators for articles.★Trekker (talk) 12:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- How would you define the difference between a work and a franchise? - jc37 21:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe the names of the three categories aren't clear enough, but the type of content in the three categories is very different. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- So that we're both on the same page, please show some examples of what you mean? - jc37 01:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- The first category contains e.g. Category:Film characters by franchise, the second contains e.g. Category:Film characters, i.e. its parent, and the third category contains e.g. Category:The Godfather characters, which is not a subcategory of Category:Film characters by franchise because there is also a novel. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Therein lies part of the problem.
- Ok, so we start at Category:Fictional characters
- Then we go to Category:Fictional characters by medium
- Then Category:Film characters
- Then Category:Film characters by franchise
- But then, as you note, Category:The Godfather characters is not in this chain at all.
- So now we need to go look at: Category:fictional characters, and then its subcat Category:Fictional characters by franchise. Where we now find Category:The Godfather characters.
- But if we merge the chains, then we would instead see these options:
- Go to Category:Fictional characters
- That category would have: Category:Fictional characters by work
- And that category would have (among others) two subcats:Category:Film characters and Category:Literary characters
- And from there, the reader could follow either tree to get to the subcat they are looking for: Category:The Godfather characters.
- And so the reader wouldn't have to search all over to figure out what tree to follow, it's a straight line to find exactly what is wanted.
- We don't need these intermediary levels which create duplicative trees. - jc37 23:16, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The first category contains e.g. Category:Film characters by franchise, the second contains e.g. Category:Film characters, i.e. its parent, and the third category contains e.g. Category:The Godfather characters, which is not a subcategory of Category:Film characters by franchise because there is also a novel. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- So that we're both on the same page, please show some examples of what you mean? - jc37 01:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Rename the franchise ones to Category:Fictional characters by work, etc. to remove any ambiguity as to what belongs there. As it stands, the by-medium categories contain few articles directly, but in addition to the by-work categories they have other intersectional subcats like Category:Black characters in films. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:50, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Same problem:
- Category:Fictional characters
- Category:Fictional people by ethnicity
- Category:Fictional black people
- Category:Fictional black people by medium - Which also has Category:Fictional characters by medium as its parent cat.
- And then we get to: Category:Black characters in films
- There's no reason that Category:Fictional black people by medium can't be renamed to Category:Fictional black people by work (and categorized under Category:Fictional characters by work), and with the "by medium" tree gone, we're done. - jc37 23:36, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Same problem:
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A lot of different options are on the table; rename? Keep? Merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 07:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I took a closer look to the argument by jc37, but I cannot see why multi-medium franchsies like The Godfather shouldn't be cross-listed. Some characters appear in both the novel and the films. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:30, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- LaundryPizza03 - I'm not saying they shouldn't be in both the film and literary trees. I'm saying that categories with the words "by medium" in the title are an unnecessary intermediary step in those trees. That's what I was showing above. You can still get from point A to point B, without "by medium". - jc37 17:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, so now I'd support merging all of the categories to Category:Fictional elements by work, etc. In contrast to "by continent" container categories, Category:Film characters by franchise (which would become Category:Film characters by work), both of the category trees would meet at a first-level subcategory, while Category:Amusement parks in China is two levels below Category:Amusement parks by continent — most countries are in a single continent. Category:Film characters by work would be necessary to separate from other traits such as Category:Black characters in films and Category:Film characters by year of introduction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively, we should sort by medium before work, and no top-level "by work" container category, which will lose no navigation capability because all works have a medium. Then Category:The Godfather characters would be crosslisted between Category:Film characters by franchise and Category:Literary characters by work (the inconsistency between these two is another reason to use "by work" exclusively), and Category:Comics supervillains would contain Category:Supervillains by publisher (probably renamed to Category:Comics supervillains by work). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:18, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hold on, let me draw a diagram... –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- LaundryPizza03 - I'm not saying they shouldn't be in both the film and literary trees. I'm saying that categories with the words "by medium" in the title are an unnecessary intermediary step in those trees. That's what I was showing above. You can still get from point A to point B, without "by medium". - jc37 17:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Continent/country
|
---|
- I think the best course of action is then to delete Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium and use Category:Fictional characters by franchise to hold Category:Film characters by franchise. I am not sure about anything else. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for drawing the chart : )
- It illustrates how the "by franchise" and "by medium" layer are duplicative, and could both be replaced with "by works" (as you note above).
- So, in this chart, both FC by medium and FC by franchise would be merged to FC by work. And FC by franchise and medium deleted/upmerged to FC by work
- Sci Fi chars by franchise (also part of the genre tree) renamed to SFC by work.
- Film chars by franchise renamed/merged to Film chars by work
- And the trees become a bit more straight-forward, and easier for the reader's to navigate. And it also (re-)unites various articles that should be part of the trees, which aren't, as Marcocapelle noted above.
- Once this is done, cleanup will be MUCH easier : ) - jc37 23:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Would this also mean eliminating the "by continent" category levels, since there are only seven of them? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not proposing anything about "by continent" as far as I know. I'm merely looking at the fiction elements trees and see a spiderweb over varying choices of "how" to categorise them over the years, and was looking to unify them a bit, to the single term (works) that we seem to have settled on for films, literature, video games, etc. Due to how they are currently separated, "like" isn't being categorised with "like". They are being strewn across various similar trees. The godfather one is just an obvious example. And having a parent to hold cats that have "franchise" in the name", just segments things even more.
- But if you mean it as an analogy, I think this is different than "continent". A continent is a geographical region. Countries are created boundaries upon this geographical region. (Though I suppose it could be argued that Eurasia is arbitrarily divided). So I don't know if they are a similar situation. Especially, since we don't seem to have genres of continents : )
- Kidding aside, I'm not sure how you're intending the comparison. There are just a lot of ways in which these character cats are being subdivided, I think removing these two layers, aids navigation. We will still have subcats of FC in film, but they just will be categorised a tier (or 2) up. This will be helpful as we look at how these cats intesect with other trees as well. Which should also make it less confusing for editors who are trying to add things into the tree(s). - jc37 07:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to merging the trees — I think that point sums up nicely why we have continent categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37, StarTrekker, and LaundryPizza03: would you mind if we relist this discussion once more? I think, at the very least, that we need to confirm or clarify or summarize our positions before anyone else will be able to close this discussion. I suppose being WP:INVOLVED does not necessarily prevent us from relisting. Personally I got lost after 14 February but I am certainly willing to have a look at it again when things are more clearly presented. Or alternatively we close this discussion as no consensus and start an entirely fresh discussion that is hopefully more easy to follow. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Uninvolved, but I am taking Marcocapelle's suggestion. I am going to ping all participants and ask them for their current views on the categories. If you support a merge, which categories should be merged to which other categories?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37, StarTrekker, LaundryPizza03, and Marcocapelle: what are your current thoughts on what, if anything, should be merged, and to which targets? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge the 3 nominated categories into Fictional characters by work, per nom (per WP:OVERLAPCAT), for the reasons laid out in the discussion. Basically these are unnecessary intermediary layers, and worse, they act as blocks to trees, and make it a.) more difficult to categorise pages appropriately, and b.) make it more difficult for the reader to find what they are looking for and c.) make the trees rather into an incompletely patchwork where some articles are not getting categorised appropriately due to "a". This streamlines the trees and will make cleanup of the various trees far easier. - jc37 05:58, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I stand by my oppose. I do not see how this categorization scheme is any more difficult or hindering for navigation than any other. If there are cases where franchise or medium doesn't make sense there is nothing stopping anyone from creating Fictional characters by work as another category.★Trekker (talk) 12:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Slavery of Native Americans
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Slavery of Native Americans to Category:Slavery and Native Americans
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 03:06, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- It seems a valid subcategory. Maybe rename to Category:Slavery by Native Americans to clarify the distinction with Native Americans in slavery. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't a distinction exist for Category:Slavery in Native American culture (ie. pre-colonial/pre-reservization) and slaves owned by Native Americans in a colonial context? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- There is too little known about pre-colonial slavery by Native Americans, there isn't even one article dedicated to that topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Split to Category:Slavery by Native Americans and Category:Slavery of Native Americans per Marcocapelle. These are exactly opposite of each other. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:45, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? it's lio! | talk | work 07:24, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly I think that splitting them will be more trouble than it's worth. SMasonGarrison 11:41, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? it's lio! | talk | work 07:24, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Prune and Split Category:Slavery and Native Americans (and all its subcats which follow the format Category:X and slavery), to Category:Slavery of Native Americans and Category:Native American slave owners (alternate due to existing target name) per Marcocapelle. This is simply WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH. - jc37 19:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Jc37's alternative is fine too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag those categories; apologies for neglecting to do so earlier.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC) - @Smasongarrison: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Seems fine SMasonGarrison 02:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator to Category:Airstrikes by combatant
- Nominator's rationale: NPOV issues with the term perpetrator -- perpetrator is an inherently value-laden term that assumes criminal activity, whereas combatant is a neutral term used in international law to describe participants in military conflicts. Althistwikibox (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not that this is strictly necessary, but here's the link to the Wiktionary entry for "perpetrator."
- https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/perpetrator
- It's inextricably linked to the concept of criminal activity, and not all of the airstrikes are inherently criminal. Althistwikibox (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate rename to Category:Airstrikes by country involved. Remove from Category:Categories by perpetrator, which is probably unnecessary due to WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of removing the category from Category:Categories by perpetrator, but I believe that Category:Airstrikes by country involved would be too restrictive, as airstrikes conducted under the auspices of NATO are also included in the category, and since NATO isn't a country, those would not be included in the alternate renamed category. Althistwikibox (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- With airstrikes by country we can move the NATO airstrikes to Category:Airstrikes, it is a possibility too (not that I am advocating anything). Marcocapelle (talk) 16:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of removing the category from Category:Categories by perpetrator, but I believe that Category:Airstrikes by country involved would be too restrictive, as airstrikes conducted under the auspices of NATO are also included in the category, and since NATO isn't a country, those would not be included in the alternate renamed category. Althistwikibox (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target? Not seeing any support for the current name.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)- Quick question -- I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know all of the lingo around here. What do you mean by "rename target?" From context, I'm guessing that you're just looking for more consensus on changing the name, but I'm not quite sure. Althistwikibox (talk) 14:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Althistwikibox: Sorry, I just saw this now. By "rename target", I mean that if the category is renamed, what should it be renamed to? "Rename target" is shorthand for the new, post-renaming category name. If you have questions about anything I've said, you are always welcome on my talk page :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:48, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Quick question -- I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know all of the lingo around here. What do you mean by "rename target?" From context, I'm guessing that you're just looking for more consensus on changing the name, but I'm not quite sure. Althistwikibox (talk) 14:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Airstrikes by belligerent party following parent class Category:Military operations by belligerent party.
I note the existence of Category:Military operations by country involved as suggested by Zxcvbnm, but I worry that "country involved" is unclear for this category if we want to include the belligerent, assailant, or attacker but not the country getting bombed. While I'm not sure about the scope for Category:Military operations by country involved, usually military operations involve more reciprocal involvement, whereas airstrikes are often more one-sided. I'd probably prefer Category:Airstrikes by belligerent country for a country-specific category.
See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 7#Category:Categories by perpetrator for my thoughts on that parent category. Daask (talk) 21:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Does Category:Airstrikes by belligerent party work?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Holidays
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Holidays to Category:Observances and Category:Vacation
- Nominator's rationale: split, a holiday may mean an observance day, but holidays may also mean vacation. This category contains a mix of both. Split according to the two meanings and convert Holidays to a disambiguation page. This nomination is inspired by an earlier comment by User:Jc37. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Split and make Category:Holidays a disambiguation category per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge both to Category:Holidays and observances, and split to Category:Vacation as appropriate. - As I noted in the other discussion: "I think Category:Holidays and observances is still a good idea due to differences in usage, etc. (And by having both words in the name, they also disambiguate each other, adding clarity over ambiguity.) That said, there's no reason that Category:Holidays can't become a dab page after this is implemented." - Another reason to include both in the name is to sidestep us needing to parse the theological difference between a religious observance and a religious holiday. Let's just avoid all of that. - jc37 10:35, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge and split per Jc37. The outcome of this CfD will also be necessary for Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_April_5#Category:Lists_of_days. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle and Aidan721: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37: if I am not mistaken (correct me if I am wrong) the word "holidays" is more closely associated to "vacation" in some varieties of English. If that is the case then "Holidays and observances" remains ambiguous. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- wikt:holiday - It has several meanings, some are similar but not quite the same. Which is part of why pairing it with "observances" disambiguates its usage here. - jc37 06:31, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jc37: if I am not mistaken (correct me if I am wrong) the word "holidays" is more closely associated to "vacation" in some varieties of English. If that is the case then "Holidays and observances" remains ambiguous. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle and Aidan721: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Skanör
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Skanör to Category:Skanör med Falsterbo
- Nominator's rationale: Proposed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_30#Category:People_from_Skanör, due to the small size of this category. However, I doubt that there will be enough contents to expand the "People from" subcategory as well because the place has a population of only 7,000, and hence I closed that one as merge. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:03, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge to Category:Vellinge Municipality. This target category isn't populated well, and Skanör med Falsterbo isn't even the largest place in the municipality, that is Höllviken. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:03, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to follow Statistics Sweden localities. I've also added more articles that would fit in a broader or merged category. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:21, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm not seeing objection to a rename if kept, but should it be (manually) merged?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I would now say both Category:Skanör (med Falsterbo; 1 C, 11 P) and Category:Vellinge Municipality (3 C, 9 P) are sufficiently populated. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Educators from Los Angeles
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated Subcategory. Lost in Quebec (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. This has two subcategories in it (after the nominator removed all of the subcategories of Category:Academics from Los Angeles). This category has been in existence for less than a week. I don't see why the nominator didn't add a few people or nudge me to do it. SMasonGarrison 22:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment This editor has been told multiple times by multiple editors that working, going to school, or dying in Foo, doesn't make the person automatically from there. See my talk page[1]. Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:47, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- And the above editor is adding incorrect articles to this category. Two academics, here and here. Plus an article on a teachers strike and a trade union. In fact the two people articles they added only mention the people working in Los Angeles not living there. They may not belong in academics either.Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:25, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Could you try to populate the category? I moving them from the broader "People from Los Angeles" category. SMasonGarrison 19:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. This has two subcategories in it (after the nominator removed all of the subcategories of Category:Academics from Los Angeles). This category has been in existence for less than a week. I don't see why the nominator didn't add a few people or nudge me to do it. SMasonGarrison 22:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The category has been significantly expanded since nomination, but there is dispute to the inclusion of some of them.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- This needs a broader discussion. Generally I would argue that the tree of people by location and occupation should be limited to the location(s) in which the occupation is exercised, whether the subject lives there or not. Currently the tree is also used for location of birth which is unrelated to occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with having that broader conversation because I agree with Marco's interpretation. But... I don't think it particularly helpful in this narrow category nomination. My goal was to try to diffuse the People from Los Angeles category. SMasonGarrison 02:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
FBG Duck categories
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:FBG Duck songs
- Propose deleting Category:Songs written by FBG Duck
Nominator's rationale: Categories related to artist article recreated after it was deleted by nomination. DBrown SPS (talk) 09:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete If Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Slide (FBG Duck song) closes as delete, then both categories will be empty. Also related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FBG Duck (3rd nomination). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:05, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The linked AFD was closed as keep. Should this category still be deleted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:FBG Duck songs should be kept considering the header in Category:Songs by artist. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Economists from Washington, D.C.
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: After the CfD that merged Category:Economists from New York City, I'm inclined to support the same for this one. It is also a rather small category, at nine pages within a parent that has only three others. I also picked three articles at random, and at least two of them did not work in DC so deletion is also an option. No attempt was made to determine if all pages are within other subcategories of Category:American economists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Eight of the nine people in the category, are from DC. So deletion wouldn't be an option. As for working there, we don't classify by place of work because otherwise all Washington DC sports team athlete categories would then be in Category:Sportspeople from Washington, D.C.Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see how a place would be defining for economists for anything but place of work. How about you? We don't classify by place of birth, either, which is the only connection to DC for at least two of the entries. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:46, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Nominator and supporters of merging are forgetting the 400 lb gorilla in the room. Category:Economists from Washington, D.C. is analogous to entries in Category:American economists by state It isn't a state but not a normal populated place either. :@Marcocapelle and :@LaundryPizza03 would you care to rethink this CFD?Lost in Quebec (talk) 19:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Lost in Quebec's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:05, 21 April 2025 (UTC)- Merge. I think that even though Washington DC is a unique hybrid of state and populated place, it doesn't protect it from being merged for being underpopulated. SMasonGarrison 02:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)